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LuckyLuke Wargan
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Posted - 2013.08.13 04:27:00 -
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What I'd like to know is how many CPMs actually play Dust on a regular basis, feels to me the majority of them are EVE players, with the mentality that Dust should work exactely like EVE, which has done nothing but make this game a failure so far... |
LuckyLuke Wargan
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Posted - 2013.08.13 04:58:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:LuckyLuke Wargan wrote:What I'd like to know is how many CPMs actually play Dust on a regular basis, feels to me the majority of them are EVE players, with the mentality that Dust should work exactely like EVE, which has done nothing but make this game a failure so far... Funny thing is the CPM thing is taking a lot of time away from Eve as well. Kain is in the business mogul side of things though most of that is afk profits though. I retired to some quiet corner of high sec and I watch over a lab. Not sure where the others are in Eve. Hans is a Faction Warfare fanatic. So far its been pretty useful background knowledge when dealing with out counterparts when we have to talk about the link with them. At least we're knowledgeable enough to poke them about just anything involving everything involving Eve. I wished I can say the same for our own counterparts in eve playing Dust 514 though... One guy insisted that the "Gallente Medic" among 3 other suits (amarr heavy, minmatar scout, and caldari assault) had to be nerfed first before fixing the link and the entire CPM was like This week's theme on tales of an omni-soldier, ninjas gallente styled. :( Currently doing very badly. Frankly, our Eve buddies may not it, but for people like us playing only Dust and not eve, this game has absolutely no link to EVE online... our choices don't seem to matter, we are not part of the eve market, the interactions between the two games (on dust side at least) is rather non-existant, and what is the point of planetary conquest unless you are an eve player... this game right now really caters only to eve players, with months of grinding to get anything, to no respecs, constant change to stats (nerf this, buff that) and the ever continuing "adapt or die" mentality, how are new dust players just getting interested suposed to stay long? Most new people will be like "screw this" and never look twice. This game was suposed to reach people unfamiliar to dust, it is doing the opposite. |
LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.08.13 05:08:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Aye which is why we're getting a meeting with the CSM and CCP pretty soon about the link. I want something solid enough that a major eve powerhouse would try to invade Molden Heath for it thus forcing more regions to open up.
We're eons away from Null warfare. It seems he was talking about the market, not PC other than PC is only important to Eve players. Isn't this what you just said too - you want to make PC more important to Eve players? Thank you, at least someone gets it. |
LuckyLuke Wargan
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Posted - 2013.08.13 05:47:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Links of importance includes the following interactions
Corporations & Alliances, Economy, Interplaying.
The way I see it the pre-requisite for us having any business with eve trading/isk transfers is that our OWN trading is made available. By this manner this gives isk true value. Because as it stands now there is nearly no difference between a player with 8 billion isk and 80 million isk if they're not the sort into hiring other people. By allowing players to trade their own items to other players for isk suddenly that 8 billion isk means much more.
Corporation tools need to vastly improve and catch up to eve's own, to which in itself needs a massive maul over. While a minor piece of the puzzle its the critically important edge of it at least.
Then Interplay. "The Why should I care if TEST alliance is falling apart?" - A Dust Bunny "The Why should I care if a bunch of dust bunnies are getting steamrolled by EON?" - An Egger
Improving how both games play with each other will increase the value of an eve player to a dust player and vice versa. You would care if the guy that was supposed to be OB support and hire proper escorts, your eve pilot will care enough that he will break through hell just to make sure you got that game winning OB your team desperately needed. To do this you have to make both sides care, quite a bit.
This all and all is rather tricky, we do currently know that the Starbase bonuses are not cutting it and will have to provide something else. Suggestions are many and myriad and ultimately we're not there in many places but we want CCP to start thinking about better ways of improving the link before the commit to something stupid that isn't going to work which the last idea CCP threw to us CPM went lol and when brought to the CSM's attention they pretty much agreed at the lameness of it. I would be absolutely mad if they go ahead with it. True Eve pilots will benefit from it, however its nothing to write home about or start a multi-month/year war over. I'll believe when I see it... not to be rude but you start losing sight of things when the link does not improve since I was on the close beta since may/june last year. Plenty of talk about it... but not much else... at least they brought PC... yepee... |
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